I’m not perfect, and I’ve learned as much from my own personal failures and failings as from my successes (as well as the failures and successes described by the saints and the scriptures). I’ve been caught in the self-destructive cycle, but I’m struggling hard to get out. Now when someone says to me: “Have you heard what so-and-so said / did / is doing” in a scandalized tone, I say: “Who cares. I don’t want to hear about it” if it’s someone on my team speaking to me, or else just change the subject if it’s not. Actually, people don’t really talk to me like that so much, because I don’t send out the signal that I’m available for such katha.
There may well be information that I would benefit from knowing - so that I can adjust the trim of my sails - but that kind of thing has to be discussed in appropriate clinical terms and settings, not emotive tirades or scurrilous gossip sessions.
Those kinds of conversations simply whirl the mind around without doing anything. It calls to mind the verse from the Bhagavat:
“Whatever you desire to describe that is separate in vision from the Lord simply reacts, with different forms, names and results, to agitate the mind as the wind agitates a boat which has no resting place.” - Srimad Bhagavatam 1.5.14
Srila Prabhupada referred to it as “shop talk”, and it is the scourge of any organization. This kind of talk is unproductive and defeatist. I remember a conversation that I had with my spiritual master in Ecuador a few years ago. Here is verbatim a segment that burned itself into my memory:
You notice that I am emphasizing the positive. I’m not saying “don’t do this, don’t do that”.
Listen, I know that you live near a temple where you disagree with the management and what they are doing. Welcome to reality - “Everyone does”. Don’t waste your time trying to define your situation as unique and somehow special. Every city that has a temple has an alienated sector.
(I’m not speaking to anyone in particular with that, and if it doesn’t apply then let it pass over you. If you’re feeling a little hot under the collar right now, then yes, it’s probably you, among many other readers of this blog.
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We have to do one or two of three things - lead, follow, or step aside. If you know what to do, then do it (lead). Your positive example will speak for itself. If not, then find someone who does know, and follow them (follow). If none of the above, then whatever you do, don’t waste time fruitlessly criticizing others (step aside).
But the fact of the matter is that you must lead. In fact, everyone is leading all the time. Everyone influences other people by what they do and say - so no-one can say: “I don’t want to be a leader”. You are one, so take responsibility for that. In some areas we lead, in others we follow. In some areas we follow some and lead others. Whatever the case, we cannot escape the responsibility for influencing other people, for better or for worse.
So synchronise your concern with your influence. Forget about what temple manager X is doing in your city or in another city or another country. Figure out what you can do, and execute. If you don’t know what to do (and even if you think you do) find people you respect and get advice.
I personally get my advice from HH Ramai Swami, who is the local GBC representative, HH Devamrita Swami, my spiritual master, HG Tirtharaj Prabhu, ISKCON Brisbane temple president, and Akrura das, the founder of the Bhaktivedanta Leadership Institute.
Where you get your advice from is up to you. Take it from where you are inspired to take it, but take it from somewhere, and act on it to create positive change.
Not everyone can “change the world single-handedly”. I’m very inspired by Dhruva, one of the stalwart Brisbane brahmacaris. Through thick and thin, through administrative changes and upheavals, he has continued to apply himself to the distribution of Srila Prabhupada’s books. He reasons: “What can I do about all that? Here, however, is something I can do.” And he just keeps on keepin’ on, acting in the sphere that he is able to influence. As you do that, your sphere of influence and capacity to effect change will increase.
As we were discussing at the opening night of Atma Yoga, whatever good result we are able to see here is a direct result of this action of Dhruva’s, and others who have kept on keepin’ on, trying to create positive change through doing what they can to move things forward.
Forget about what’s going wrong and stop disempowering yourself with talk about how the management is bad. Just get on with life - shrink your sphere of concern to exclude what you can’t change, and work on creating positive change. Start from where you are.




Nice article prabhu. We all go through phases in our development and its unpleasant when we feed on the difficult phases of others not realising that that very act is symptomatic of a difficult phase we are going through. As much as we should discriminate about our sanga it so much more nectar to churn the glories of the devotees, so much more satisfying to discuss the opportunities of what can WE can do instead of how wrong everything is. Is it Anthony Robbins who said spend 90% of your time on the solution and 10% on the problem? Its true. Y.s Nalakuvara das
You sound just like His Holiness Devamrita Swami while he was TP at New Vrndavana.
Sitapati Prabhu,
Please accept my obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada and Gurudeva.
This article here is very helpful for me. ‘Paralysis by analysis’ is a tendency I struggle with and, its true, that this all to often leads me into a frustrated disposition which further compounds because the more frustrated I get then the less effective and rational I am. Nice reference from the Bhagavatam too.
Also I’d like to apologize for my emotive and harsh criticism of what you’re thinking and doing that I made last week. Upon re-reading what I’d written I was embarrassed at how dismissive it was of all the good you actually are doing and attempt to do. Mabye I’m envious or something because I can’t do as much?
Of course you go about things in a way that I can’t relate to a lot of times, but I should actually apply the practical advice you’ve reminded me of here and not get so bent out of shape at things I can’t do anything about anyway. Given my traditionalist leanings, I obviously couldn’t adopt a lot of your methodologies but perhaps I should grow here and at accept that there is room in this world, and in the society of devotees, for innovation and experimentation. At the very least I should give up thinking that somehow I should wage war upon those with these sort of inclinations as it doesn’t seem to be getting anywhere positive. Perhaps my advice would be better received if I just go about things less didactically and mind my own business of surrendering.
My immature utopian disposition often lends itself to neglect of common sense in dealings with my environment and other individuals, yet when that neglect turns into offense then I’m doing nobody any good and really just injuring myself. As you’ve rightly pointed out - this is a waste of Krishna’s energy. And my pride is so ugly isn’t it? Truth be known - some people may suffer from ‘delusions of grandeur’ yet I suffer from ‘delusions of adequacy’.
So please forgive this unworthy person. I fall at your feet repeatedly with a desire to change my heart and plead that you will release me from my offense. Also I beg that you will bless me and pray for me to be released from my offensive mentality which is damaging to myself and others.
your repentant, unworthy and fallen servant,
ekendra das
p.s. - the thing that really disturbs my heart now is how i was not only being dismissive of what you’re thinking and doing but it seems I was dismissive of you as a person. Nobody should be treated like that and I’m very regretful that I came across this way. Due to the fog of maya and my own envious dispostion I completely neglected to remember that you’re trying to give all of your energy to helping others in this life. Surely Krishna reciprocates with this kind of sincerity and I should take a lesson here. I’m sorry.
Dear Prabhu, I really respect and admire your humility, your learning, your design sense (except for that Papyrus script - but that’s a detail), your dedication and your devotion to Srila Prabhupada and the Krishna Consciousness mission. I’m very proud to be associated with you as your God brother. Or maybe that should read: “I’m very proud and I’m associated with you as your God brother”
Anyway prabhu, please keep on keepin’ on. You’re doing what you need to be doing, and you are a source of inspiration and a valuable counterpoint not just for me, but for many of our Godbrothers. OK, let’s not get too grandoise and say “the world”, but I’m counting on you to be you.
I don’t take offense at anything you do prabhu. As you said yourself, “it’s a thankless task”. Gurudeva once said to me: “If you want to be a preacher, don’t expect to be a appreciated”, so a few beatings go a long way to help deal internally with the apparent external successes.
We’re simply here to do our duty and close up shop, not to be deviated into chasing profit, fame, and adoration.
So I sincerely thank you.
your aspiring servant,
Sita-pati das